A | 在阅读此文之前，麻烦您点击一下“关注”，既方便您进行讨论和分享，又能给您带来不一样的参与感，感谢您的支持。 The following is a transcript of an interview with Sen. Bernie Sanders, Independent of Vermont, that aired on "Face the Nation" on September 3, 2023.
ROBERT COSTA: And we now go to Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders, who is joining us from Burlington. Good morning, Senator Sanders, we appreciate you being here.SEN. BERNIE SANDERS: Morning, Bob. ROBERT COSTA: Senator, President Biden is touting the latest jobs numbers, but your recent speech in New Hampshire painted a bleak picture of the nation's economic reality. When you met with President Biden at the White House in recent days, what exactly did you tell him, Senator? And did you warn him, like you warned in New Hampshire, that, quote, 'Democrats must reject the corporate wing of the party?'SEN. SANDERS: Well, Bob, what I have said publicly, time and again, is that President Biden and his administration have made some real progress in addressing issues that have not been dealt- dealt with in decades. We finally took on the pharmaceutical industry, and we're beginning to make some progress in lowering the cost of prescription drugs, a lot more has to be done. After years of talk, we finally invested in rebuilding our crumbling infrastructure, roads, bridges, water systems. Manufacturing is coming back in America. So, I think we're making some progress, but everybody knows that for decades now, not just under Biden, not just under Trump, but for decades now, what we have seen in America is an economy in which the very, very wealthy are doing phenomenally well while working families are struggling. Today, Bob, we don't talk about it much, we have more income and wealth inequality than we have ever had in the history of the United States. This is way before Biden. But what we're seeing now is 60 percent of our people living paycheck to paycheck, we have a health care system which is totally broken, we pay the highest prices in the world for prescription drugs. We've got 18 million households, where people are spending 50 percent of their income trying to pay the rent or pay a mortgage. So, we have some structural problems in America. The Biden administration has made some progress, we have got a long way to go. And what the Democratic Party has got to do is have the guts to take on corporate greed, which is unprecedented, all over the economy. The people who own the large corporations have enjoyed record breaking profits, we got to create an economy that works for all, not just a few.
ROBERT COSTA: Senator, you met with the President, you discussed these issues. You just heard from Ambassador Haley, she was attacking Vice President Harris. Are Democrats doing enough to support vice president Harris and she faces these kinds of attacks?SEN. SANDERS: Well, I think the issue is, are Democrats doing enough to win back a working class, which is leaving the Democratic Party? And what in my view Democrats have got to do is say, "Really? Do you really want to vote for a Republican Party, which wants to cut Social Security, we got to expand Social Security. Wants to cut Medicare, we have got to expand Medicare to include dental, hearing and vision. We got a Republican Party out there that doesn't even recognize the reality of climate change.' So I think, Bob, what this campaign is going to- should be about is a contrast between the ideas that work for the working families of this country, and what the Republicans stand for, which is more tax breaks for billionaires and paying allegiance to the needs of corporate America, not ordinary Americans.ROBERT COSTA: But is the administration doing enough? I listened closely to your speech in New Hampshire. The administration's recently taken action on marijuana, for example. But should it do more with executive power? It's taken action on prescription drug negotiations with Medicare. But should it do more? I mean, you- you're out there saying they should be tougher--SEN. SANDERS: And the answer is yes. Bob, the answer is yes, it should. Some of it can be done through executive orders, a lot can be done through legislation. And what I think has got to happen, this is my own view, is I think, what the President has got to say, is give me 50, at least 50 Democrats in the Senate. Give me control over the House of Representatives and by 50 Democrats, I mean, real Democrats, not corporate Democrats, like Manchin and Sinema. And if you do that, within two or three months, we're going to reform health care to move it toward a system which guarantees health care to all people, not just huge profits for the insurance companies. We're going to lower the cost of prescription drugs, so we're not paying any more than the rest of the world. We're going to rebuild our economy, to work for ordinary people, and I think that's got to be the message. Contrast, a progressive agenda for working people versus a Republican agenda.
ROBERT COSTA: Senator, I know you don't like to talk politics, but you're the one who went to New Hampshire, an early primary state you've done very well in over the years. You support President Biden 100 percent, you've made that clear, but for any reason, if President Biden decides not to seek the Democratic nomination, is a run by Senator Sanders for the nomination on the table next year?SEN. SANDERS: Bob, I think we spend too much time speculating. I think President Biden is going to be the nominee of the Democratic Party and I think if he runs on a strong, progressive agenda, he's not only going to win, he's going to win by a strong vote and I'll tell you why. Because when you look at a Republican Party, it's not only that you have a president, a former president, who has been impeached twice, indicted four times. These are people who deny women in this country have the right to control their own bodies, really? Is that where we are in 2023? Not recognizing the reality of climate change, wanting more tax breaks for billionaires, that's what their agenda is. So I think that in any kind of serious campaign, President Biden and the Democrats will do quite well against that reactionary agenda.ROBERT COSTA: What do you- what do you say, Senator, though, to some of your longtime supporters, who are frustrated because they don't believe the Biden administration's done enough? They may not share your view of how things have gone. And they're thinking about Cornel West, or they're thinking about Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. What's your message to them as they drift toward those others?SEN. SANDERS: Well, my message to them is that we are living in an unprecedented moment in American history. Donald Trump is not only a pathological liar, has not only helped wage an insurrection, if you like, to prevent President Biden from taking office. Not only is denying American democracy, moving against the American democracy. So I think at this moment, Bob, we have got to bring the progressive community together to say, you know what, we're gonna fight for a progressive agenda. But we cannot have four more years of Donald Trump in the White House.ROBERT COSTA: Do you worry about the progressive vote, staying home?SEN. SANDERS: I think if the Democrats come up with a strong agenda that speaks to the needs of senior citizens in this country, and that means raising Social Security benefits, expanding Medicare, if we speak to the needs of young people that is having a lot to do with student debt, if we demand that the wealthiest people in this country stop paying their fair share of taxes, if we come up with a progressive agenda, I think we're going to win and win big. And when we win big, we have to make it clear that we stand with the working class of this country against the kind of corporate greed that we now see.ROBERT COSTA: Senator quickly, you are also the chairman of the Senate Health and Labor Committee. Progressives voters are looking to you as well for action. You're investigating Amazon warehouses right now. Are you committed to issuing a subpoena for Jeff Bezos, the founder of Amazon to come testify or not?
SEN. SANDERS: Well, we're gonna pick one step at a time. Right now, what we're working on Bob, is major reforms in primary health care. We don't have enough doctors, nurses, dentists, mental health providers in this country. We're working hard on legislation to do that. We brought Mr. Schultz from Starbucks before the committee, we are looking at Amazon and we'll take it one step at a time, but certainly have no fears. You know, at the appropriate time they may well do that.ROBERT COSTA: Thank you very much. Senator Sanders. We appreciate you taking the time on a Sunday morning, Face the Nation. We'll be back in one minute. Stay with us. 。本文内容均引用权威资料结合个人观点进行撰写，文中已标注文献来源及截图，请知悉。高僧不该是清贫度日，怎么也这么贪财？2022年，安徽一位高僧却花了4.5亿买地，名下甚至还有18家企业。于是人们纷纷议论，这怎么和我们印象中的和尚，太不一样了，他到底是谁，钱从哪里来？信源：斥资4.5亿买地少林寺进军房地产？实业电商拍抖音，寺庙生意远比你想得要多 澎湃新闻释永信的佛门之路1965年，刘应成出生于安徽阜阳，在父母潜移默化的影响下，他从小就对佛教产生了浓厚的兴趣。16岁那年，他毅然决然地选择了剃度出家，踏入了嵩山少林寺的大门，法号释永信。
B | 在很多人看来，出家意味着远离尘世喧嚣，过上清净无为的修行生活，然而释永信的佛门之路却并非如此简单。进入少林寺后，他展现出过人的天赋和坚定的决心，他不仅每日潜心研习佛经，刻苦练功，还积极参与寺内事务的管理，并展现出卓越的才能和独到的洞察力。他敏锐地意识到，在现代社会，仅靠传统的香火钱难以维持寺庙的正常运转和发展，于是他开始思考，如何将少林寺的文化资源转化为经济效益。1987年，年仅22岁的释永信便被选为少林寺管委会主任，开始全面负责寺院的各项工作。这一任命，对于年轻的释永信来说，既是机遇也是挑战，他肩负着重振少林寺的重任，也承担着来自各方的压力和质疑。
C | 然而，他并没有退缩，而是以非凡的勇气和智慧，带领少林寺走上了一条前所未有的商业化之路。
D | 商业版图扩张释永信上任后，少林寺的商业化进程便如火如荼地展开，其商业版图也迅速扩张，涉及多个领域，令人叹为观止。他组织少林武僧成立武僧团，进行商业演出，将少林功夫的魅力展现给世界各地的观众。武僧团的足迹遍布全球，不仅为少林寺带来了可观的经济收入，也让少林功夫成为了中国文化输出的重要载体。同时，释永信将少林寺打造成一个集宗教、文化、旅游于一体的5A级景区，他投入巨资修缮寺庙，改善基础设施，提升游客体验。
E | 少林寺的声名远播，吸引了越来越多的游客前来参观，门票收入也成为了少林寺的重要经济来源，每年数以百万计的游客涌入少林寺，为这座千年古刹注入了新的活力。为了进一步拓展商业领域，他还注册了700多个与“少林”相关的商标，涵盖了服装、食品、药品等多个领域。他将“少林”品牌商业化，使其成为一个具有巨大商业价值的文化符号，这种做法虽然引发了一些争议，但也为少林寺带来了丰厚的经济回报。不仅如此，他还积极推动少林寺的海外扩张，在全球范围内开设了多家少林分寺，将少林文化传播到世界各地。这些分寺不仅承担着弘扬佛法的使命，也为少林寺带来了可观的海外收入，进一步巩固了少林寺的国际地位。
F | 为了实现多元化经营，释永信还成立了少林寺武术学校、少林寺医院等机构，形成了一个涵盖教育、医疗等多个领域的产业链。他将少林寺的资源优势转化为经济效益，为少林寺的可持续发展奠定了坚实的基础。然而，最引人争议的莫过于释永信在房地产领域的投资，2022年，他斥资4.5亿在郑州购买了一块地皮，这一举动引发了轩然大波，也将他推上了舆论的风口浪尖。一个佛门高僧，为何要涉足房地产行业？这巨额资金的来源和去向又是什么？这些疑问萦绕在人们心头，成为了社会关注的焦点。
G | 争议与质疑释永信一系列的商业化举措，虽然为少林寺带来了前所未有的繁荣，但也引发了社会各界的广泛争议和质疑。于是人们开始反思：佛门清净之地，是否应该沾染如此浓厚的商业气息？佛教强调清净无为，四大皆空，而商业运作则充满了追逐利益的世俗气息，这种看似矛盾的结合，让很多人难以接受，认为释永信的做法玷污了佛门的清净，偏离了佛教的本质。
H | 同时随着少林寺商业版图的不断扩张，其经济收入也水涨船高，然而这些资金的具体流向和用途却缺乏公开透明的监管机制，引发了公众的担忧和质疑。有人怀疑，少林寺的资金是否被滥用或挪作他用，是否存在腐败问题。
I | 而且他身穿价值16万的袈裟，佩戴金丝楠木佛珠，出行豪车接送，这种奢华的生活方式与人们印象中简朴清修的僧人形象格格不入，引发了公众的强烈质疑。
